Episode 8: Defensible Evidence - Say What You Do. Then Prove It.

In this episode of All About Risk, Lily Yeoh sits down with Shayne Adler, co-founder of Aetos Data Consulting, to talk about defensible evidence, the gap between policy and reality, and why perfect compliance is a myth.

They unpack compliance debt, right-sizing controls, AI overpromises, data theater, and what it really means to say what you do and do what you say.

To learn more about Shayne Adler and Aetos Data Consulting visit ⁠here⁠

00:00 – From Law to Chief Trust Officer

07:11 – What Defensible Evidence Actually Means

11:30 – Compliance Debt and the Policy Gap

16:15 – Who Is Compliance For?

17:43 – Right-Sizing Controls and Avoiding Overload

24:19 – AI Hype, Data Theater, and Operational Discipline